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Yesterday, I posted on the "off topic" thread. Sadly there have been no responses yet and so I thought I would put a link on here. I am asking for thoughts, ideas and opinions regarding live music and or stand up nights within the Grandstand bar. Do you think live music would attract support to the venue? What sort of music or comedy acts would YOU be willing to support? Would you be prepared to pay a fee on the door? (Acts need paying for their time).

Anyway, here is the link:

viewtopic.php?f=8&p=5580&sid=f7fcf4de31 ... b336#p5580
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Not sure how much help I am, but I wouldn't like to see this go unanswered.

Personally, as an out-of-towner (Hutton), I probably wouldn't attend anything at Haig Ave.

I go to a lot of live music and occasional comedy gigs, but I like to have a couple of drinks while doing so and Haig Ave is too far out of the way for me - and maybe even impossible to get home from afterwards - using public transport.

The poor choice of drinks would also put me off going - although I don't know if that's changed. It's been a while.
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Damn good idea. Local acts always need a venue to perform at and to build up a following. Somewhere that offers drinks cheaper than pubs & clubs have an obvious attraction for some. Good for artists and good for the club, whats not to like?. Aside from any revenue it would generate, it would also raise peoples awareness of the club and the facilities it has to offer
Sadly I live much too far away to attend such events but if I was more local, I certainly would and would have no qualms about paying admission.
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Sorry - didn't really answer many of your questions there.

Yes I'd 100% expect to pay. If I'm going anywhere to watch/listen to live music I'd find it weird if I didn't have to pay. Though anywhere that I'm going to socialise/drink that also has live music, I'd expect to be free (the local pub, for example).
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Comedy nights can go well, often they are promoted as a monthly comedy club on a set night in the month, 1st Thurs, 3rd Fri, as example.

Equally though they can lose money if they are not promoted properly.

There are people about who can present them as a package for which they would charge around £500 all in, presenter, three comedians and usually lighting etc. You just have to sell the tickets.

I have a friend in Liverpool Steve Porter (not our popular director) who arranges the packages, but there are others about.

I would however wait and see what direction this Covid is going to take first, especially as most of these people require at least a deposit beforehand.

When I was at Skem we had some with mixed success and Marine used to run one on a regular basis for a year or two. . I am sure Nicola has similar contacts especially through her radio work and could also arrange them or advise on where to go.
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Live music is probably a better idea, we already have regular comedy shows on saturday afternoons and tuesday nights, no point in saturating the market.

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You won't get many heading to Haig Avenue to pay to hear live music when there's a reasonable number of venues offering it free in town every weekend during normal times. Live music at local level tends to be part of a night out rather than acts you're prepared to pay to go and hear. Acts that enough people would be prepared to pay to go and hear would tend to have already outgrown out of the way function rooms.
On the other hand a comedy night would be an event in itself and I think would be the more successful of the 2 ideas for our function room.
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I’m with Ralphy on this one. I’d imagine comedy or sport personality events done on an intermittent basis maybe more popular or even the occasional music night but with maybe
different genres , rock, jazz, Irish , shanty . It’s a tough one to predict, but less is more when it comes to promoting events I would imagine for marketing tickets . People seem to soon tire of “regular” events.
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I think you could test the waters (and advertise) by trying somebody acoustic in the bar before a match. Getting people interested while they’re at the match is a good start and maybe they could throw in a few football songs as well.
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It’s a shame we couldn’t host proper outdoor gigs like they do at Wrexham’s Racecourse ground.

Now that would be pretty cool!

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Seem to remember one summer in the late 70's and an open air concert was set up to feature Showaddywaddy , ended up a one big white elephant
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SteH90 wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:17 pm I think you could test the waters (and advertise) by trying somebody acoustic in the bar before a match. Getting people interested while they’re at the match is a good start and maybe they could throw in a few football songs as well.
Hmmm, now that is a good idea and I might just know one or two potential acoustic acts that would fit the bill too. Thinking the likes of Mat Fearon for example.
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Met him on a Monday wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:39 pm Seem to remember one summer in the late 70's and an open air concert was set up to feature Showaddywaddy , ended up a one big white elephant


Ah, yes indeed :-) Some years ago the Hairy one and I actually explored the idea. At this time, a certain often over enthusiastic commercial manager was also keen. The problems encountered revolved around planned work on the pitch and also fears that the pitch might be damaged. Such problems can be overcome though. The other sticking point was noise but this was mitigated for by planning to hold "the event" during the day rather than evening and by combining music with other football related activities.
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Met him on a Monday wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:39 pm Seem to remember one summer in the late 70's and an open air concert was set up to feature Showaddywaddy , ended up a one big white elephant
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Ralphy Rylance wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:37 pm You won't get many heading to Haig Avenue to pay to hear live music when there's a reasonable number of venues offering it free in town every weekend during normal times. Live music at local level tends to be part of a night out rather than acts you're prepared to pay to go and hear. Acts that enough people would be prepared to pay to go and hear would tend to have already outgrown out of the way function rooms.
On the other hand a comedy night would be an event in itself and I think would be the more successful of the 2 ideas for our function room.
The potential for attracting enough people also rests with the bands / artists booked. For example, local band Fag Ash Lil invariably have a good following and have easily "rammed" the bar to the rafters on those occasions we have had them on. I remember that we had a Jimmy Hendrix tribute (needed to raise almost £400 from the door for that one) which also did well. Bootleg Blondie, also expensive did well as did a Rory Gallagher tribute "Sinner Boy".

Comedy club type nights are an interesting idea and worth exploring, I think. Seem to remember we had a very busy Soul night (bar did well).

If we can find a way of combining some events with club related events (meet the manager / players, mini race night / quiz etc) then this might be a way of getting supporters through the door in combination with music / comedy fans.
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Certainly think that the club could hold a comedy gig as part of the Southport Comedy Festival each October.
A great way for the club to raise the profile of the 1881 lounge in the community.

(Ideally, but Certainly not essential, a footballer/manager comedy impersonator would be very apt and popular on the night)
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John Glendenning wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:02 pm

The potential for attracting enough people also rests with the bands / artists booked. For example, local band Fag Ash Lil invariably have a good following and have easily "rammed" the bar to the rafters on those occasions we have had them on.
But when were they last on at the football club? 20 years ago? Longer?
I'd say there's a lot more places in town hosting free live music these days. Indeed I've seen that same band myself a few times in recent years.
So assuming the band's fee is the same regardless of venue are they likely to book an out of town gig where their loyal support has to pay to get in or a free one in town?
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Ralphy Rylance wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:40 am
John Glendenning wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:02 pm

The potential for attracting enough people also rests with the bands / artists booked. For example, local band Fag Ash Lil invariably have a good following and have easily "rammed" the bar to the rafters on those occasions we have had them on.
But when were they last on at the football club? 20 years ago? Longer?
I'd say there's a lot more places in town hosting free live music these days. Indeed I've seen that same band myself a few times in recent years.
So assuming the band's fee is the same regardless of venue are they likely to book an out of town gig where their loyal support has to pay to get in or a free one in town?
Last Fag Ash lil gig at the club was 2016. Lilettes (name they give to their fans :-) showed up in numbers and seemed happy enough to pay. If there is some sort of charitable element (think last time the door was split and anything taken above the band fee including raffle went to Queenscourt) people seems reasonably happy to pay. The cheaper beer prices at the bar also help.
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There may be local acts who are also Port supporters, or have sentiments, for local football that may make them willing to play for a reduced rate, there are still some people who are not totally driven by money. Free season tickets could also be an inducement..... Unlikely but worth a try. Any (legal) way of raising money for the club is the objective, finding the way to do it is the problem.
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Met him on a Monday wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:39 pm Seem to remember one summer in the late 70's and an open air concert was set up to feature Showaddywaddy , ended up a one big white elephant
A Tom Robinson cock up ! How about us playing on either Friday or Saturday 19:30 KO at home?
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