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Coleman signed a striker from WBA yesterday on a season long deal.
Maybe he thought Charles or Bishop was going to be sold too or it could just be a gee up to these lads, who to be honest have had a slow start to the season, especially Dion.
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Correct Yellowtaxi..
Bishop was the one last night that sounded nearer a move than Dion, although with him being on international duty may also have hindered that notion.
Disappointing.
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loyal jay wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am Hopefully he'll bang in some more goals from now till xmas and command a better fee. I suspect the proceedings will cover the losses we have made, the rest will be contingency money. Wouldn't it be nice if we used some of it ( alongside football grants & supporter donations ) to cover one part of the ground?
Unfortunately, even if Dion moves on in January it will likely be for a cut price fee as he will only have six months left on his contract. Accrington will have to take a much lower offer or he will walk out for free.

A shame, but there we are.
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I see Zac Aley now plays for City of Liverpool, and has just recently turned 30. One of the first players I remember watching as a child, his proficiency at our level stood out to me even then, and he left the club when I was 6 years old :lol:. A massive waste of talent and the last example I can think of where a player has been brought through from our youth teams and actually had the scope for some success in the game?
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Port on the Kent wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:53 pm
loyal jay wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am Hopefully he'll bang in some more goals from now till xmas and command a better fee. I suspect the proceedings will cover the losses we have made, the rest will be contingency money. Wouldn't it be nice if we used some of it ( alongside football grants & supporter donations ) to cover one part of the ground?
Unfortunately, even if Dion moves on in January it will likely be for a cut price fee as he will only have six months left on his contract. Accrington will have to take a much lower offer or he will walk out for free.

A shame, but there we are.
Another flickering flame of optimism is extinguished lol

Do we still retain our sell clause if he signs a new contract?
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loyal jay wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:02 pm
Port on the Kent wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:53 pm
loyal jay wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am Hopefully he'll bang in some more goals from now till xmas and command a better fee. I suspect the proceedings will cover the losses we have made, the rest will be contingency money. Wouldn't it be nice if we used some of it ( alongside football grants & supporter donations ) to cover one part of the ground?
Unfortunately, even if Dion moves on in January it will likely be for a cut price fee as he will only have six months left on his contract. Accrington will have to take a much lower offer or he will walk out for free.

A shame, but there we are.
Another flickering flame of optimism is extinguished lol

Do we still retain our sell clause if he signs a new contract?
Yes. The agreement is between the clubs, not the player and his team.

As for a cut-price sale in January, I wouldn't say that's often the case. Assuming he doesn't have an option on his contract, teams that want to bolster their chances of going up/surviving will be just as desperate to sign Dion as Accrington will be to sell him.
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Ste_B wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:09 pm
loyal jay wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:02 pm
Port on the Kent wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:53 pm

Unfortunately, even if Dion moves on in January it will likely be for a cut price fee as he will only have six months left on his contract. Accrington will have to take a much lower offer or he will walk out for free.

A shame, but there we are.
Another flickering flame of optimism is extinguished lol

Do we still retain our sell clause if he signs a new contract?
Yes. The agreement is between the clubs, not the player and his team.

As for a cut-price sale in January, I wouldn't say that's often the case. Assuming he doesn't have an option on his contract, teams that want to bolster their chances of going up/surviving will be just as desperate to sign Dion as Accrington will be to sell him.
I'm fairly sure he has a 1 year extension option, for what it's worth.
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I thought they took the option for the further year this summer so he'd be on a free at the end of this season but I could be wrong.
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They’re having the same debate on the Accy forum, so who knows.
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Jordan Lussey has signed for Curzon Ashton
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Swedes wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:42 pm Jordan Lussey has signed for Curzon Ashton
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Lines I never expected to read:
Adam Blakeman scores Chorley's 8th after 72 mins
Attempts on goal: Chorley 25 Gloucester 0
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Not surprised to see Gloucester buckle at a place like that. Strange team for this level, some good technical players but so so lightweight. They almost resembled an U23 team. We should have scored four or five against them in the second half on opening day.
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Dan Cockerline got his 8th league goal of the season for AFC Liverpool in their 2-2 away draw at Padiham.
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Steven Tames got Prescot Cables 2nd goal in their 3-2 away FA Cup 1st qualifying rd match at Charnock Richard.
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Jonny Margetts got a hat-trick for Belper Town in their
3-0 away win FA Cup 1st qualifying rd tie at Matlock Town in front of an impressive attendance of 1,052.
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Andy Owens has left Chorley to rejoin Radcliffe.
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Widnes have confirmed the resignation of joint-managers Steve Akrigg and Kev Towey.
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Extract of an article written about sleeping pills in football with Mike Phenix mentioned during the first half of the article, from The Athletic :
Mike Phenix cannot really remember Paul Carden calling him over. He cannot really remember Southport’s manager sending him on against Kidderminster Harriers in October 2015. He cannot really remember Carden waving him back soon after. He cannot really remember the ignominy of being substituted as a substitute after just 10 minutes or so. Yet Phenix just about remembers the night before. He could not sleep. “So, I took a couple of these tablets off my mate… wiped me out.” The rest of the weekend was more or less a blank.

Phenix remembers signing for Barnsley a year earlier from Telford United. He remembers one of his two games being against MK Dons, when he was introduced by Lee Johnson and tasked with the responsibility of chasing after Dele Alli. He remembers much of that dreadful period. He remembers struggling to deal with the death of a close relative. He remembers suffering from Crohn’s disease — an inflammatory bowel disease — and hiding it from team-mates and staff. He remembers sitting uncomfortably, being desperate to use the toilet on long journeys for away games. He remembers trying to deal with his own nerves, aggravated because of his health concerns.

Phenix does not remember boarding the coach that travelled down the M6 to Kidderminster because he missed it. “Slept straight through… woke up midday.” He does not really remember the conversation with his former girlfriend that persuaded her, despite being heavily pregnant, to drive him in his Ford Ka for a couple of hours from his home in the north west of England. The lift would cost him a “fortune” because, according to Phenix, she dropped him off at the ground and did not hang around. “She went shopping with my credit card instead.”

They only arrived in the West Midlands after another delay. This was because of a punctured tyre. He just about remembers the phone in his pocket ringing and Carden asking where he was. He just about remembers telling him, “I’ll be there… I’m on my way.” That was before the breakdown. He can just about remember jogging on the hard shoulder for a couple of miles and then back again from a service station. Southport’s fans were driving past. “‘Are y’alright?’, they’re asking. ‘It’s twenty to three, mate, and you’re on the hard shoulder…’.”

Phenix vaguely remembers slurring his words as he tried to explain away what had happened. “I was away with the fairies — still drowsy; don’t know what was in these tablets.” He does not remember much of his contribution to the game. “I was stood 10 metres offside, asking for the ball with my hands in the air apparently… I didn’t know what I was doing.”

His then-girlfriend escorted him home that night and he slept for the rest of the weekend. “I was fresh as a daisy on Monday. But I was sent back to Barnsley after that. Lee Johnson rang me and he said, ‘Michael, what have you been doing?’. I said, ‘I don’t know, gaffer’. I didn’t tell him the truth.”

Phenix was able to laugh at himself when he told this story to the I Had Trials Once podcast in the summer of 2019 but the tone of the interview changed as he detailed what happened next in his career — an episode that surely makes anyone listening question where the use of sleeping pills might lead.

After apologising to Southport, Phenix was allowed to complete his loan before signing permanently and two productive seasons at an upwardly mobile Salford City followed. In 2018, however — at the age of 29 — his career effectively ended during another spell at Southport when he was banned by UKAD (UK Anti-Doping Agency) from “all football activity” for four years after he was found to be using steroids as well as cocaine.


Mike Phenix, pictured in 2016, the year after he came on for Southport against Kidderminster Harriers when he was affected by sleeping pills (Photo: Robbie Jay Barratt – AMA/Getty Images)
Phenix would rationalise that his earlier need for both sleeping pills, which are legal, and steroids, which is not, were fundamentally the same: both, he thought, would ultimately help him perform after rough days dealing with anxiety stimulated by health worries. He insists he did not use either to gain an advantage on other players. He insists, indeed, that he used them merely to allow himself to be available.
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It is sad that anybody had to go through such horrors off the pitch but I am afraid the taking of steroids to enable him to play is only one thing in my eyes, cheating, it is merely an excuse not a reason.
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