News of Former Players - it's back!

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Bukta it was Ralphy, thanks.
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Some of those old kits are fascinating. While we should keep old gold for as many games as possible, a change strip inspired by some of those old combos would be good.
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Sandgrounder SE wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:19 pm Some of those old kits are fascinating. While we should keep old gold for as many games as possible, a change strip inspired by some of those old combos would be good.
We had the green and white hooped one at the start of the Treadwell regime, did we not? Not a classic.

I've always thought a black and white striped one would be a good option for us. Not sure about red.
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I'm a big fan of old kits, hence the retro range available from the FPA.
Southport Central started in 1888 with a white shirt and blue shorts...A very nice retro version of which will soon be available.

It's interesting to see club colours listed as one of the heritage items listed in the independent fan led review. I get the principle, but perhaps it's just the term I object to because of you actually spend any time looking at our history and heritage you'd see that in terms of club colours weve actually had Red, Red& white stripes, white, red and white hoops,red, black & white stripes, green & white hoops, black& white stripes again, old gold, yellow and back to old gold.
We've had gold or yellow since the mid fiftiee so that's been established the longest I suppose.

For nicknames we've had "the reds", "the stripes", "the southportonians" and "the Sandgrounders".

In terms of crest, we had one in 1888 which was the original town crest, then didn't have one at all for about 50 years,using SFC as simple lettering at times on shirts, before then starting to use it after the corporation died.

In terms of "recent" change kits....
we had the white/blue colour combination to celebrate 100 years at Ash Lane/Haig Avenue.
We had white with thin black pin stripes in the 90s. (Possibly my favourite away kit)
We've had green and white hoops in the past 5 years.
The only colour we haven't had in recent years is red but given that we like the wear the change kit even if there is no colour clash, I think there is a very good reason why we haven't chosen red as so many teams seem to wear it.
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The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
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Ste_B wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
Southport Onions would be more appropriate give the freuquency we've been reduced to tears. :lol:
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Coleman on Dion:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59400077

Seems to indicate Accy expect to sell him come January
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It would be in Southport's interest if Dion signed a new contract. as Accrington would get a higher fee for him, of which we would get an enhanced sell on fee. If he runs his contract down, he goes for nothing and we get an enhanced fee of nothing
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There is no golden formula when it comes to selling players or everyone would follow it.

Liam has said in a previous interview, it can be wiser to take a lesser fee from clubs like Accrington with an inflated sell on clause, than taking more in a fee but losing out in the long run.

This theory has failed this time, but may work again.

I hope the lesson learned is that when clubs are in for our young players, we should balance the fee with the propensity of the buying club to move assets on themselves.

Hopefully this produces a more effective sell on system and instead of giving first refusal to Coley as a mate, we get the most out of every penny to the benefit of the club.
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Port on the Kent wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:56 pm There is no golden formula when it comes to selling players or everyone would follow it.

Liam has said in a previous interview, it can be wiser to take a lesser fee from clubs like Accrington with an inflated sell on clause, than taking more in a fee but losing out in the long run.

This theory has failed this time, but may work again.

I hope the lesson learned is that when clubs are in for our young players, we should balance the fee with the propensity of the buying club to move assets on themselves.

Hopefully this produces a more effective sell on system and instead of giving first refusal to Coley as a mate, we get the most out of every penny to the benefit of the club.
It hasn’t failed at all.

This situation just goes to show what may have happened had we rejected Accrington’s offer in the first place. We could have lost him for nothing.

Instead, even if If he’s now sold for just 25% of his £1m asking price, we still get an extra £50k which, in addition to the fee we received, is well above what you’d have expected anybody to pay us for him.
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Billy Priestley scored the only goal for Clitheroe in their
1-0 home win over Trafford yesterday.
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Ste_B wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
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Absolutely no! Since I moved away from Southport over 40 years ago I've always told people that the name for people from Southport is Sandgrounder and that there's no such thing as a Southportian. Please don't bunk my claim.

Although I was always told that to be a true Sandgrounder, not only did you have to have been born in Southport but that both your parents also had to have been. Which counts a lot of us out. Will count out future generations now that there's no longer a maternity unit in Southport. But we can all pretend.
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becbee wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:28 am
Ste_B wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
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Absolutely no! Since I moved away from Southport over 40 years ago I've always told people that the name for people from Southport is Sandgrounder and that there's no such thing as a Southportian. Please don't bunk my claim.

Although I was always told that to be a true Sandgrounder, not only did you have to have been born in Southport but that both your parents also had to have been. Which counts a lot of us out. Will count out future generations now that there's no longer a maternity unit in Southport. But we can all pretend.
Them Sandgrounders too cliquey. The definition of Southportonian can be whatever you like.

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becbee wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:28 am
Ste_B wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
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Absolutely no! Since I moved away from Southport over 40 years ago I've always told people that the name for people from Southport is Sandgrounder and that there's no such thing as a Southportian. Please don't bunk my claim.

Although I was always told that to be a true Sandgrounder, not only did you have to have been born in Southport but that both your parents also had to have been. Which counts a lot of us out. Will count out future generations now that there's no longer a maternity unit in Southport. But we can all pretend.
I'm proud to say it doesn't count me out! But unfortunately, the long line of Southport born McCumiskey's ended with me :(

Up the 'port
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Dan Cockerline scored the only goal for Nantwich last night in their 1-0 away win at Whitby Town in their FA Trophy match.
Worth a look kiaken!? 🤣😈🤣
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Paddy Lacey: The footballer who went to prison and could now become a top boxer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59321032

Good article, well worth a read
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superbike999 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:19 pm Paddy Lacey: The footballer who went to prison and could now become a top boxer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59321032

Good article, well worth a read
I was a bit disappointed he didn't credit Liam Watson to be honest - Liam and Southport gave him a footballing opportunity after being in prison - he should be grateful for that.
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YELLOWTAXI wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:04 pm Dan Cockerline scored the only goal for Nantwich last night in their 1-0 away win at Whitby Town in their FA Trophy match.
Worth a look kiaken!? 🤣😈🤣Think not YT.
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superbike999 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:19 pm
Paddy Lacey: The footballer who went to prison and could now become a top boxer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59321032

Good article, well worth a read
I was a bit disappointed he didn't credit Liam Watson to be honest - Liam and Southport gave him a footballing opportunity after being in prison - he should be grateful for that.

Actually it's quite disgusting that he hasn't credited Southport and Liam in particular for giving him his big chance when he came out of prison. Admittedly he was sacked by Liam later but that was allegedly because he played for a Sunday team under a false name and got himself sent off, under the false name. He was then banned by the FA, all while he was registered and playing for Southport. I said 'allegedly', by the way! He won't be getting my support, in football or boxing!
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becbee wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:28 am
Ste_B wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am The Southportonians is a great nickname that should be brought back.
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Absolutely no! Since I moved away from Southport over 40 years ago I've always told people that the name for people from Southport is Sandgrounder and that there's no such thing as a Southportian. Please don't bunk my claim.

Although I was always told that to be a true Sandgrounder, not only did you have to have been born in Southport but that both your parents also had to have been. Which counts a lot of us out. Will count out future generations now that there's no longer a maternity unit in Southport. But we can all pretend.
The original definition of a Sandgrounder was someone born between the River Alt and the River Douglas (formerly River Astland) and predates the existence of Southport.
We are the nutters, we come from the sea.
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