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Changes to football rules?

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Here is an off-season chat thread.

Are there any rules that you would change?

I would do away with playoffs and have promotion solely dependent on league position.

I would revert to 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. The current points allocation is illogical.

I think that the penalty spot should be moved back. Its too easy to score a penalty, and that encourages diving etc. and the crime often does not justify the punishment.

Major championships to be resolved by a replay - or the title to be shared. Penalty shoot outs are not football.
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Call me a traditionalist or whatever.

But the rules of football need to be left alone, especially at non-league.

There are lots of things wrong with Premier League football in regards to corruption and stupid rules like not putting the offside flag up until after the move has finished, when it is clear as day the attacker is offside. This is why a lot of people have moved away from Premier League football and started to watch non-league more, they are fed up with VAR and stupid rules. Did I hear they were gonna try 30 mins a half and a stopped clock? Give it a rest.
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Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would do away with playoffs and have promotion solely dependent on league position.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would revert to 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. The current points allocation is illogical.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI think that the penalty spot should be moved back. Its too easy to score a penalty, and that encourages diving etc. and the crime often does not justify the punishment.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmMajor championships to be resolved by a replay - or the title to be shared. Penalty shoot outs are not football.
Nope. In isolation, penalty shootouts are the greatest sporting contests ever devised by man.
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The ball cannot go above head height.
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Should do the MLS old style penalty shoot outs to make the county cups more interesting :D
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Retrospective punishment for diving / simulation, with increasing punishments for repeat offenders. Players like Mo Salah would miss half of the season.
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Swedes wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 2:11 pm Retrospective punishment for diving / simulation, with increasing punishments for repeat offenders. Players like Mo Salah would miss half of the season.
They wouldn't do that. It would upset golden boy Jurgen too much.

The only two players to ever be retrospectively punished for diving are Lanzini and Oumar Niasse :lol:
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Removing playoffs would kill the season for most clubs with 15 games still to go, and I suspect attendances would suffer too.

I agree with Swedes and would like more retrospective punishment to stop all the “professionalism” that goes on.

I’d also like being a dickhead to become a red card offence. Not returning the ball, intentional fouls etc.

Oh and landmines placed anywhere between one and five yards in front of where the ball went out to encourage people to take a throw in from where it should be.

I’d also put a bell in the ball to help the occasional visually impaired referee we get each year.
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Play Offs to never ever be settled by a penalty shoot out. The team that finishes highest in the table should progress automatically after 90 minutes to maximise the advantage of the highest placed team. The way our league play offs work without two legs do now give the highest placed team the advantage of playing at home but as we have seen with Fylde and Brackley they don't always make it pay!
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Not a rule change as such but definitely get rid of the Mickey Mouse county cup competitions

Apologies to all of those still basking in the glory of our magnificent victory against the mighty West Didsbury and Corlton FC
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Post by Ralphy Rylance »

Actually having 90 minutes of football would be nice, so stop the clock every time the ball is out of play/dead.
Time-wasting would be impossible.

Play offs are fine but those seeking promotion should play off against teams in the league above who are facing relegation.
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cavjj wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:57 pm
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would do away with playoffs and have promotion solely dependent on league position.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would revert to 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. The current points allocation is illogical.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI think that the penalty spot should be moved back. Its too easy to score a penalty, and that encourages diving etc. and the crime often does not justify the punishment.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmMajor championships to be resolved by a replay - or the title to be shared. Penalty shoot outs are not football.
Nope. In isolation, penalty shootouts are the greatest sporting contests ever devised by man.
But why ‘nope’!
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sandgrounder6 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 3:57 pm Play Offs to never ever be settled by a penalty shoot out. The team that finishes highest in the table should progress automatically after 90 minutes to maximise the advantage of the highest placed team.
That’s logical. I’d go for that.

I also agree with RR about play offs with teams at the bottom of the league above.

If we must have play offs.
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Red card for diving and trying to cheat.
Yellow cards issued much faster for time wasting amd I am sad to say that Cam M is one of the worst offenders I have ever seen, which is a shame as he is a damn good keeper.
When time is being wasted at free kicks, corners & throw ins, the ref should have the power to reverse the decision. Ie wast time at a goal kick, award a corner.
Yellow cards for all players that surround the ref and try to influence his decisions.
Points deduction for offences such as letting off flares anywhere within the ground and for pitch invasions.
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Ste_B wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 3:48 pm Removing playoffs would kill the season for most clubs with 15 games still to go, and I suspect attendances would suffer too.

I agree with Swedes and would like more retrospective punishment to stop all the “professionalism” that goes on.

I’d also like being a dickhead to become a red card offence. Not returning the ball, intentional fouls etc.

Oh and landmines placed anywhere between one and five yards in front of where the ball went out to encourage people to take a throw in from where it should be.

I’d also put a bell in the ball to help the occasional visually impaired referee we get each year.
The last one is easy sorted - already available for blind players.

Liking the landmines idea, just not sure how it fits with the Geneva convention.

I would ditch the stupid electronic substitution boards, at our level at least. And if the officials still manage to screw it up, the steward who escorts them off at half time / full time, should escort them on a lap of the pitch. Perhaps they should do that anyway, so we can all show them our appreciation?
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I don’t agree that clubs should be penalised for bad behaviour by fans, but the miscreant fans should be publicly shamed and severely punished. I wouldn’t go as far as castration, but a kick in the bollocks might educate them.
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Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 5:41 pm
cavjj wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:57 pm
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would do away with playoffs and have promotion solely dependent on league position.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI would revert to 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. The current points allocation is illogical.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmI think that the penalty spot should be moved back. Its too easy to score a penalty, and that encourages diving etc. and the crime often does not justify the punishment.
Nope
Redrobe fan wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 12:54 pmMajor championships to be resolved by a replay - or the title to be shared. Penalty shoot outs are not football.
Nope. In isolation, penalty shootouts are the greatest sporting contests ever devised by man.
But why ‘nope’!
1) To remove playoffs renders, I'd estimate, around 100 games a season across the division suddenly totally pointless. Take Southport, it became obvious early in the season that we wouldn't be champions but after some strong form mid-season, playoffs were a real possibility. This increases attendances, gave us a shared purpose all across the club. I've watched a variety of EFL playoff games this season and they've all pretty much been excellent to watch. You're not getting that in most standard league games. Pro and semi-pro football is just a soap opera with a pig's bladder. Don't be taking drama out of the sport.

2) 3 pts for a win and 1 for a draw is much more logical than 2 for a win and 1 for a draw. The change came to encourage attacking play. It's right that a win should be worth much more than a draw.

3) The penalty conversion rate from 12 yards is about 75%. I'd argue that's pretty low for the physical task. It does encourage diving, I don't disagree there, but there are better ways to combat it. Simulation should be a red card, end of. The club should be fined a ridiculous amount of money. The problem has gone in a few weeks. It's cheating at the end of the day, and it should be stamped out of the game fully.

4) The calendar is already bursting at the seams. We can not fit more games in without reducing the off-season, which is already quite short for players to have a break and then come back prepared, and for clubs to alter personnel. The FA Cup (unfortunately, IMO) is already culling replays in the later rounds. The League Cup is on borrowed time. To suggest more replays just isn't going to happen. As mentioned, I can't agree with your stance on shootouts. Shootouts are fantastic. Awful to be involved with, fabulous to watch as a neutral.

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I had a long conversation the other night with Mrs Portchat about Ralphy's suggestion, stopping the clock for timewasting. I'm not a huge fan of that either. IFAB, I think, are currently considering making games 60 minutes with a stopped clock. But when we only get 60 minutes of play currently, how does that help?

I'd personally time every team every time they were required to take a throw, or a free kick, whatever. Exemptions for injuries or if the other team was carded. Tally it up through the season. Sliding scale, the shorter the time taken, you get a financial incentive or points. I'm not actually in favour of fully removing timewasting opportunities, let's not remove every opportunity for gamesmanship from football, but it does need to be reduced. It would help if referees accurately allotted injury time. If there are 8 mins of stoppage time because someone took the piss, so be it.

The rules have been crafted over 150-odd years and the current ruleset is pretty good. I'd bin off VAR tomorrow. I'd make handball simple, under the elbow, it's handball, end of. Offside to return to how it was, none of this "not interfering with play" bollocks.

I'm all in favour of having playoffs against teams facing relegation from the league above.
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Players to wear straight jackets to prevent constant manhandling of other players at corners.
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Yellow card for arguing with the referee, straight red for aggression or abusive language towards an official.
Playback at pitch side available to referee - straight red for simulation.
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PortDan1121 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 1:51 pm But the rules of football need to be left alone, especially at non-league.
Thread should have ended here.

What we need is less dicking about.
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