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Re: Liverpool Senior Cup

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These games should be played as pre-season competitions rather than meaningless friendlies.
Remember the Marsden Cup? Decent crowd against Burnley.
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Marsden Cup was the Lancashire Senior Cup. Lancs FA have been known to experiment with the format of their competitions from time to time....

https://www.southportfootballclub.co.uk ... cup-story/

https://www.southportfootballclub.co.uk ... p-story-2/
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Re: Liverpool Senior Cup

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Why do we belong to 2 different county FAs?
Is there any advantage to it?
We are the nutters, we come from the sea.
We must be nutters to watch SFC.
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Well, the original association Southport Football Club (i.e. not us) were actually part of the Liverpool & District FA's formation in 1882. They were one of the 12 clubs invited to meet to discuss its creation. It was chaired by Robert Lythgoe the Bootle secretary who was friends with Thomas Burnett, the Southport secretary, from their time in Wales.
Those were the days before leagues even existed and cups were the only games that really piqued the interest of the general public. A Liverpool competition was seen to give a greater opportunity for silverware. It made sense to enter as many competitions as possible then as they were fixtures that were easy to arrange rather than having to pay teams to come and play at your ground.
When we were formed as Central six years later I think we entered for the same reasons. However our first dalliance in the competition didn't turn out the way we intended. We were due to play Whiston but were drawn to play Irwell Springs in the FA Cup on the same day. Liverpool FA wouldn't let us move the game so we fielded the Swift's (reserves) instead and got beat 3-1. Burnett played in that game.

As for modern day advantages...probably not at first team level. The junior teams do play in Liverpool FA affiliated leagues but then the disciplinary stuff and coach education always goes through Lancs.
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SfcFPA wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:59 am Well, the original association Southport Football Club (i.e. not us)
Interesting, Dan.

Is the current 'club' not the same, or descended from the same, legal entity?

(maybe I should read your book!)
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Redrobe fan wrote: Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:39 pm Is the current 'club' not the same, or descended from the same, legal entity?
(maybe I should read your book!)
No, completely different. Central was a brand new club. New name, new colours, new kit, new committee, new players, new ground. Every contemporary source calls them a "new organisation" and even their first AGM in 1889 refers to them being a club that is just 1 year old.
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Re: Liverpool Senior Cup

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Southport have been drawn against Widnes or Runcorn Town in the Round 2 of the Liverpool Senior Cup.

The first round will be played week commencing October 24.
The second round takes place week commencing November 28th.

Full draw: https://twitter.com/_StephenKillen/stat ... Xm8xfcIrkg
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